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I am waiting on analysis from Brazilian lawyers before I weigh in on how legal Brazilian court's decision to block X is, but I can safely say that the fines for individual users accessing the site over a VPN are crazypants.
@evacide X is crazypants.
@jajo I have principles and they don't stop applying just because a state is acting against a platform run by a person I don't like.
@evacide It´s easy to handle. Get a legally responsible for X in Brazil
@jajo Punish the company, not the users.
@evacide Well, they just did. Right?
@jajo They also punished the users, which is the behavior I am criticizing.
@evacide That's what concerns Elon? Then, get a legally responsible. It's the law in Brazil.
@jajo That's what concerns me, the person you are talking to right now. And we are about to stop talking because I don't think fruitful communication with you is possible.
@evacide You have to accept that X needs a legally responsible in Brasil. I have. It's not something about a fruitful communication. Its about acceptance.
@DiogoConstantino Yes, of course I agree with you. But get that legally responsible and then the issue is closed. Brasil is a vere large country with their laws and we should not tempt them to cut the services away. @evacide
@DiogoConstantino If I were you I shouldn't care about the X users. It's Elons customers which he should take care of himself. And I have mentioned how to. @evacide
@jajo @evacide twitter users are mostly not twitter customers or even fans of Musk.
I believe all people should be treated equally under fair and balanced laws, and never unfairly abused, or mistreated by the Law. If you don't believe in that, then you're not a defender of the Rule of Law, Democracy, and Human Rights.
@DiogoConstantino Thing is that neither you or I decides what is law in Brasil. You just follow it or your fucked. I remember very well when the digital society was not into common law. I don't want that time back.
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@DiogoConstantino In Elons term they should be called customers which is another story of what they really are and who has the responsibility. @evacide
@DiogoConstantino
Thank you very much for your opinion.
@evacide
@jajo I have a nagging feeling that the point @evacide made went well over your head.
It's not about space karen or zombie twitter, it's about Brazilian cirizens that _use_ the site being fined. Which imho is as wrong as fining someone for reading 4chan or mein kampf.
Legal rep for the dumpstertoddler ain't going to change that. It's irrelevant as it's about Brazilians fining Brazilians, not about the spoilt brat. Not everything is about that cockwomble.
@JorisMeys No, It has not went over my head. I am very well into this discussion. I believe in FOSS. Which X is not. @evacide
@evacide has Brazil fined any users yet? I saw that the fine they threatened was pretty outrageous.
@kkeller Not that I'm aware of, but it's like they've had a lot of time in which to get started. And even having the fine on the books has a chilling effect that is cause for concern.
