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@Loukas@mastodon.nuI genuinely didn't think we'd so quickly reach a stage where 'Nazis are unacceptable' was a controversial position
I mean, 'Nazis bad' was supposed to be the self-justifying narrative of modern civilization.
The story went: Yes, industrial society is built on colonial horrors, but remember we defeated the Nazis. That's our redemption story, it wipes the slate clean and opens the gates to a morally neutral future.
Now that's all being dumped, as the Nazi taboo is broken, because it turns out things like short-term profits and political gains were more important all along.
I know I shouldn't be surprised by how easy it is to drop a dried and withered figleaf. I guess I'm just not as cynical as I thought I was.
I've been thinking a lot about this article by @JuliusGoat a lot recently https://armoxon.substack.com/p/the-dipshit-paradox
@Loukas things have accelerated so much in the last few months
@laurenshof the end of zero/negative interest rates really showed where companies' priorities are.
@Loukas It used to be that one was supposed to wait until the 4th reply before calling someone a nazi. Now you can't throw a brick without hitting one.
New times.
@Loukas Minor quibble: I don't think the slate can ever be wiped clean, but especially when there is so much inequity permeating every corner of our society.
It would be nice, of course, to just declare, "We're good now!" but I think the past horrors and atrocities need to be paid a little bit more than lip service before that's believable.
My $0.02.
@roknrol I'm not saying the slate was wiped clean, rather that this was the story, which is now being dumped.
@Loukas indeed, we are at much the same place we were before defeat of Nazism. https://www.marxists.org/archive/luxemburg/1915/junius/ch01.htm
@grantbrookesnz Luxembourg may have never lived to see actual nazism, but I think it is indeed correct to see fascism as the general extension of that state of war into all parts of society.
@Loukas I do believe that extension along the lines of "nazis are unacceptable to be alive" is still valid though.
@Loukas I think it's a bit simpler: by the 1930s, the world retrenched from globalization into 3 options: fascism, communism, and liberal democracy.
Now, the world is retrenching from globalization and divided into 3 factions again: Putinism/fascism, mercantilism/"state capitalism", and liberal democracy.
And since nukes make conquest near-impossible, the two options are proxy wars and undermining other nations from within through propaganda to convert them to your side.
@Loukas I'm disheartened that "porn is disgusting" and "let's hear what the Nazis have to say" may be uttered in the same breath.
@Loukas We were fine with them in 1938 when Time listed Adolph as "Man of the Year", no?